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New here and needing advice!! :-)

Postby Bluerose26 » Fri Dec 05, 2014 9:18 pm

Hello fellow TTCTners!!
I have been lurking on this board for a couple weeks reading whilst trying to build a protocol and research everything, and now I've decided to take the plunge and join the board! So here's to hoping some of you fabulous ladies can help me :-)
A little more info about me, I'm 26 years old, my partner 29.We have a four year old daughter together and I have an 8yr old son from a previous relationship. I have no fertility problems as far as I know and conceived my daughter 2nd try after years of depo jabs.
We would like to conceive b/g twins as this will be my last pregnancy for sure and I would love another daughter, but would also like a son by my husband-to-be.
In addition to trying for b/g twins, we would really love to conceive on our honeymoon, bit of a fantasy I know but we really want to give it a good try.
I'm 5'5'' and slim and would like to minimize the chances of ohss so I'm looking for advise on the doses if possible too. We are also considering paying for a private follicle tracking scan to give us better chances of knowing what's going on once we start actively trying, but I am worried they will know I'm taking the u/p clomid? has anyone done a private scan to help ttct?

so so far, this is our protocol:
CD1-BFP
Folic acid 5mg
Prenatal vitamins
Royal Jelly 500mg
CD1-O
Evening primrose oil 1000mg x3 daily
CD3-CD7
Clomid cd3-7. 50-100mg OR 25-50mg?
CD8-CD10
Menopur 75iu or other FSH?
CD11
5000 or 10000 iu trigger?? (at positive opk)
1DPO-5DPO
Bromalain 1500mg
1DPO-10weeks +
Progesterone??
5DPO
5000 iu trigger - second trigger??

Do you think it might be too aggressive? would love twins but I want to avoid higher multples, but at the same time I want to give my best shot at this.
Any help any of you girls can give me would be great!
Thanks in advance :D :D
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CD1-BFP:
Folic acid 5mg
Pregnacare conception couple
Royal Jelly 500mg
CD1-O:
Evening primrose oil 1000mg x3 daily
CD2-CD7:
Clomid 25/50mg
CD5-CD6:
FSH 37.5iu. Folliculine/Bravelle
CD7-CD8-CD10:
FSH 75iu. Folliculine/Bravelle
5000 iu trigger (at positive opk)
1DPO-5DPO:
Bromalain (pineapple) 1500mg
1DPO-10weeks +:
Progesterone?
5DPO:
1-2000iu triggerx
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Re: New here and needing advice!! :-)

Postby Dreamingoftwins » Sat Dec 06, 2014 11:23 am

Honestly, I wouldn't bother with the second trigger personally, just the progesterone.

Good luck, I hope you get twins. :)
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Re: New here and needing advice!! :-)

Postby SweetRose » Sat Dec 06, 2014 12:35 pm

If you don't have problems conceiving, I would go with the 50mg clomid. Since you're small, you probably don't need 10000 hcg, 5000 should do it.

Good luck!
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Cycle #2 TTCT: 50 mg Clomid CD 1-6, 150iu FSH CD 2,4,6,8,10,12 and 5,000iu Trigger at Pos OPK = BFP at 11 DPO - ended in chemical pregnancy at 4w3d
Cycle #1 TTCT: Clomid CD 1-8, Soy CD 1-12, 150iu FSH CD 4,6,8,10,12, 10,000iu Trigger CD 13, and 5,000iu Booster 4 DPO = BFN
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Re: New here and needing advice!! :-)

Postby fabforty » Sat Dec 06, 2014 7:21 pm

From what ive read 5k trigger should be enough and that will reduce the chance for ohss, good luck!
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Protocol:
150 iu Gonal F - CD3 - positive opk then 6500 iu trigger
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Re: New here and needing advice!! :-)

Postby Bluerose26 » Sun Dec 07, 2014 6:22 pm

Thanks guys!
So 50mg clomid, 5000hcg and progesterone no second trigger.
Is the menopur a good option? Or should I consider something else? Like follistim?
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CD1-BFP:
Folic acid 5mg
Pregnacare conception couple
Royal Jelly 500mg
CD1-O:
Evening primrose oil 1000mg x3 daily
CD2-CD7:
Clomid 25/50mg
CD5-CD6:
FSH 37.5iu. Folliculine/Bravelle
CD7-CD8-CD10:
FSH 75iu. Folliculine/Bravelle
5000 iu trigger (at positive opk)
1DPO-5DPO:
Bromalain (pineapple) 1500mg
1DPO-10weeks +:
Progesterone?
5DPO:
1-2000iu triggerx
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Re: New here and needing advice!! :-)

Postby MumtazG38 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:02 am

If by second trigger you mean booster then I say you should do it. Because when I was doing IVF I remember reading a lot about people doing boosters of hcg after transfer to help with implantation and the beans sticking. In fact, I'm doing both a booster at 5dpo and doing 1000iu intrauterinely 1-4dpo per day (very concentrated to add as little liquid as possible to the uterus/womb/lining so it stays optimally sticky in there! :)). There are studies proving that it increases both implantation and pregnancy rates significantly in IVF!

Is this Private Follicle Scan thing only available in the UK/Europe? Because I've been googling the same thing for like 2 years now and it only seems like UK is ok with it...in fact..it's pretty trendy there. I wish some clinics did that here!!! I'm so incredibly jelly! :mrgreen:
4mg E2 2/xDay 7-12DPO/AF
April cycl:
MD Lupron .01mg 2x/day CD1-14
150mg clmd CD3-7
SI 320mg CD3-7
472iu Flstm CD3-7
354iu CD8-13
274iu CD14
274iu^ + 150iu HMG CD15
COAST CD16
7.7k T CD17
O day CD18
Booster 2.24k IM 5dpo
RRLT CD5-17,Pineapple Core & Brazil Nuts 1-5dpo
800mg Prog
BETA 14dpo/4w0d = 125
BETA 26dpo/5w5d = 6529
BETA 27dpo/5w6d = 9462 Scan= 1 sac w/ poles, no yolk/hb, too early.
BETA 29dpo/6w1d = 12646
US 6w4d = 156BPM, 1 sac,yolk,hb.
US 8w0d = 178BPM, 8w3d.
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Re: New here and needing advice!! :-)

Postby Livethe3quetra » Mon Dec 08, 2014 1:59 pm

Mumtaz, your wrote 'intrauterinely' does that mean you will be having the shot inserted into you and injected into the vaginal wall? or inserted and sent into the uterus via the cervix? I have never heard of an intrauterine shot before.
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Re: New here and needing advice!! :-)

Postby MumtazG38 » Mon Dec 08, 2014 4:57 pm

I will be using an IUI catheter to "place" the drop in to the uterus via the cervix. No needles.
4mg E2 2/xDay 7-12DPO/AF
April cycl:
MD Lupron .01mg 2x/day CD1-14
150mg clmd CD3-7
SI 320mg CD3-7
472iu Flstm CD3-7
354iu CD8-13
274iu CD14
274iu^ + 150iu HMG CD15
COAST CD16
7.7k T CD17
O day CD18
Booster 2.24k IM 5dpo
RRLT CD5-17,Pineapple Core & Brazil Nuts 1-5dpo
800mg Prog
BETA 14dpo/4w0d = 125
BETA 26dpo/5w5d = 6529
BETA 27dpo/5w6d = 9462 Scan= 1 sac w/ poles, no yolk/hb, too early.
BETA 29dpo/6w1d = 12646
US 6w4d = 156BPM, 1 sac,yolk,hb.
US 8w0d = 178BPM, 8w3d.
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Re: New here and needing advice!! :-)

Postby Bluerose26 » Tue Dec 09, 2014 5:53 am

OK I'll think I have to look into the second trigger a little more, maybe with an initial 5000shot and then another 1000\2000 3-4days later.
The private follicle tracking scans cost around £100 so I'm really considering having one to help me work out how well the meds are working, just worried about them guessing I'm using u/p fertility meds.
Also what do you guys think to a test run the cycle before we actively start ttct? I'm a little nervous about how my body will react to the clomid and FSH, would it be worth a sort of trial run on lower doses and maybe a scan to see how many follicles I have and than I'm not overstimulated?
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CD1-BFP:
Folic acid 5mg
Pregnacare conception couple
Royal Jelly 500mg
CD1-O:
Evening primrose oil 1000mg x3 daily
CD2-CD7:
Clomid 25/50mg
CD5-CD6:
FSH 37.5iu. Folliculine/Bravelle
CD7-CD8-CD10:
FSH 75iu. Folliculine/Bravelle
5000 iu trigger (at positive opk)
1DPO-5DPO:
Bromalain (pineapple) 1500mg
1DPO-10weeks +:
Progesterone?
5DPO:
1-2000iu triggerx
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Re: New here and needing advice!! :-)

Postby SweetRose » Tue Dec 09, 2014 1:11 pm

Bluerose, if you did a "trial run" cycle, would you "try" if you saw that you had two or more large follicles? If so, I would say I think it's a good idea, but otherwise it kind of seems like a wasted cycle. But that's just my opinion. :)
Taking a break from TTC.

Cycle #2 TTCT: 50 mg Clomid CD 1-6, 150iu FSH CD 2,4,6,8,10,12 and 5,000iu Trigger at Pos OPK = BFP at 11 DPO - ended in chemical pregnancy at 4w3d
Cycle #1 TTCT: Clomid CD 1-8, Soy CD 1-12, 150iu FSH CD 4,6,8,10,12, 10,000iu Trigger CD 13, and 5,000iu Booster 4 DPO = BFN
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